In the shop this week! A fun project: 8th Gen Civic Si Kraftwerks SC installation, then tune on the dyno. All the parts are laid out, inspected and ready for installation.
Engine stripped and freon evacuated from the AC system. Ready to start bolting on the fun stuff......
8th Gen Civic Kraftwerks SC install almost complete. A session on the dyno tuning with a Hondata Flashpro up next. More to come....
8th. Gen Civic Kraftwerks SC kit installation complete! Slide in the new fuel pump and then onto the dyno to make some noise. :)
Let the tuning begin! 2010 Civic Si with Kraftwerks SC kit- stock exhaust manifold and exhaust system. Care to guess what the final numbers will be?
The final results are.......320 whp with stock exhaust manifold, cat and exhaust running 91 octane. Nice stealthy & quiet super sedan! Perhaps our customer Mitch can gives us his driving impressions after a few days!
8th Gen Kraftwerks Supercharger:
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/p-4253-kraftwerks-06-11-civic-si-supercharger-kit-without-hondata-flashpro.aspx
Dyno Tuning at King Motorsports:
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-173-dyno-tuning.aspx
Dyno Tuning rates:
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-176-dyno-services-rates.aspx
Update 10/29/2013:
A few months ago we installed and tuned one of the very first production Kraftwerks SC kits for the 06-11 Civic Si. At that time using the stock exhaust manifold and exhaust this car made 327whp and 214ft/lb torque. Now it's back, updated with a Full Race 3" exhaust and Skunk 2 Alpha header -the results 352whp and 225ft/lb torque- nice gain!!!
Watch a video from the dyno tuning sessions:
We recently found this very cool comparison in our archives. These are the dimensions of the EP3 Civic Type-R ('01 Spec) vs EK9 Civic Type-R ('98 Spec).
Here is the full image:
The numbers:
Dimension - EP3 - EK9 - Difference
Overall Length - 4,135mm - 4,180mm - EP3 is 45mm shorter than EK9
Overall Width - 1,695mm - 1,695mm - same
Overall Height - 1,430mm - 1,360mm - EP3 is 70mm taller than EK9
Wheelbase - 2,570mm - 2,620mm - EP3 is 50mm shorter than EK9
Front Track - 1,470mm - 1,480mm - EP3 is 10mm shorter than EK9
Rear Track - 1,470mm - 1,480mm - EP3 is 10mm shorter than EK9
Our next engine development project is brought to you by the letter J!
J35 teardown continues-underneath all that "stuff" there is actually an engine! Complete build pictures and info will be posted as the build progresses. We would like to thank out friends YAWSPORT for this exciting build opportunity!
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-206-engine-building.aspx
Update: 10/11/2013:
Cylinder head port work begins our J series engine development program for our friends at YAWSPORT.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-231-cnc-heads-valve-jobs-head-porting-milling.aspx
J Series cylinder head porting completed for our friends YAWSPORT. Up next, reworking the bottom end.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-226-top-end.aspx
Below is an archival photo of the 2001 J.A.S. ETCC Accord drive line assembly. Destroked H22 with a Xtrac sequential 5 speed. The cylinder heads were rotated 180 degrees so the intake was to the front of the car so the engine could be rotated back. This allowed the engine centerline to be lower in the chassis and improving the handling. These cars were incredibly engineered, rivaling F1 cars of the era.
Image credit (top photo): Still Photography
And on the dyno this week- the new SOS Turbo kit for S2000 with GT3576 turbo....
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-173-dyno-tuning.aspx
SOS S2000 AP2 Turbo kit dyno run. Twin Scroll GTX3576R 14.5 lbs. of boost = 393 whp. 10 lbs. of boost = 371 whp
Watch a dyno pull.
Here's a dyno sheet from that session:
Updated Dyno sheet (below): SOS S2000 AP2 turbo kit w/ GTX3576R twin scroll turbo vs. SOS supercharger kit tuned with Hondata K-Pro on the same S2000. Higher peak number with the SC kit, however much better midrange with the turbo. In the real world the turbo would make for a much more fun car to drive with much more USEABLE power.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-173-dyno-tuning.aspx
More pics from around the shop!
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K-Tuned Shifter- Incredible precision and beautifully crafted!
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/p-4382-k-tuned-billet-rsx-shifter-box.aspx
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Just installed Drag Cartel 003.2 cams with our King Motorsports 40 degree VTC cam gear and Toda tensioner in this 12.0/1 K20A road race engine. Next up, some tuning on the dyno!
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/advsearch.aspx?SearchTerm=drag+cartel
Update: On dyno this week with Ian G's K20A powered DC2. 12/1 compression with Drag Cartel Industries 003.2 cams with our 40 degree VTC cam gear, Hytech header and DC5R intake manifold.
Watch the video from Ian's dyno tuning!
Ian G's K20A powered DC2 race car results 242 whp with a super nice power band and flat torque curve- impressive!
Build Stats:
K20A with 12.1 compression
Drag Cartel 003.2 cams
King Motorsports 40 degree VTC cam gear
Hy-Tech Header
DC5R Intake manifold and throttle body
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-173-dyno-tuning.aspx
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Intercooler pipe fabrication for our latest turbo project in the shop.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-242-fabrication.aspx
Update: Intercooler pipe fabrication complete, just about ready to head onto the dyno....
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-242-fabrication.aspx
Initial engine break in on the dyno begins today for this Turbo B18C1. Once completely heat cycled 2 times we will begin final tuning.
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/c-173-dyno-tuning.aspx
Enthusiasts drive out from near and far for our annual Dyno Day in Wisconsin. We love meeting Honda owners and talking about their cars and the attention they've put into them. At Dyno Day 2012 we met Chris and Alyssa, who drove over 400 miles from Cleveland in their color-coordinated & tuned 8th Gen Civics. They joined us again in 2013-- so eager for Dyno Day that they actually arrived a day early and visited our facilities to say hello!
Here are Chris and Alyssa with Mugen rep Onuma-San at Dyno Day 2013 -- betcha you've never seen a pink Mugen t-shirt before!:
We caught up with them recently to talk about their builds...
Q: How did you meet?
Alyssa: Chris and I met in the summer of 2008. I actually initiated it after I spotted his car parked behind a store as I was driving by. It was the first Mugen Si I had seen in person and was a very active member on 8thcivic.com at the time. I turned around and placed an 8thCivic business card on his car with my username on it. A few days later he contacted me and we chatted for a while through Private Message and such and decided to meet to get to know each other and go for a drive. In doing so it evolved a friendship and later a relationship.
Alyssa drives: 2007 Civic Si Coupe - All motor build (using as many OEM parts from other Hondas as possible)
Chris drives: 2008 Civic Si Mugen - Comptech Stage 2 Supercharged
Both cars get stored in the winter but are pretty much daily driven in the few summer months we have here in Ohio.
Q: I like what you said about using as many OEM parts as possible -- the OEM+ approach is popular. Do you guys have other shared functional or cosmetic philosophies?
Alyssa: I think we are both into very similar things when it comes to cosmetic and functional ideas. We both feel a good car is all in the details, especially when modding a Honda since it is usually a very common platform. You have to do things that set yours apart from the rest whether it is a rare JDM build or something made for big power, it isn't really our style to go with what everyone else is doing. I am a pretty big wheel guru and am always taking notice of what set up everyone is going with and how a nice set of wheels and tires can really set the car off.
Q: How about things that you both agree you would NEVER do to your cars?
Alyssa: The top of that list would be anything knockoff. We both say that a certain pride is taken in owning the real thing no matter the product.
Chris: Stickers! They never make your car faster.
Q: I've personally seen stickers add +5WHP at the dyno. (Not really.) Would you ever trade cars? :)
Alyssa: We both get to drive each others from time to time and realize how different they really are. I don't think a trade is in the works any time soon but you never know.
Q: What parts or goals are next for each of you in your builds?
Alyssa: I am continuing with the all-motor build and am looking to have a set of TSX cams, TL Brembo brakes, and eventually am planning some ITB's.
Chris: Dyno Tune by King Motorsports!
Q: How did you decide to make the long trek out for Dyno Day? How was the trip?
Alyssa: We decided on a whim in 2012 to get away after I lost my father to cancer, we needed a weekend of something fun and that was it. After having such a great time last year and gaining even more respect for the guys at King, we decided to do it again this year. It was great, we love the small town feel of the organization and how down to earth everyone was. We brought both cars the first year and decided this year to just bring the Mugen, but in 2014, both cars will be back.
Chris: The trip was great and it really paid off because I actually won a Comp Clutch kit with one of the $1 raffle tickets.
Q: While you were at King you picked up a Mugen umbrella. Do you have any other favorite Mugen bits?
Alyssa: My Mugen GP's are my pride and joy and get babied as much as the car does even when they are in storage.
Chris: My Mugen Blanket with the big kanji letters has been in the back seat of the car since 2009. Anything Mugen like the Reservoir covers, key chains, etc...
Q: What about favorite Mugen parts?
Alyssa: Mugen GP's and Quick Shift Kit.
Chris: My Mugen Exhaust and Suspension.
** Build lists **
Alyssa:
2007 Civic Si Coupe:
~TODA Ported and Polished RRC Manifold
~Import DPS Intake Heatwrapped
~J35 Throttle Body
~Mugen Quickshifter
~Corsport Shifter Cable Bushings
~Invidia Race Header
~Invidia Q300
~Black FD2 Dipstick
~RDX Injectors
~Hybrid Racing Fuel Rail and Gauge
~Hybrid Racing Hoses
~Custom Battery Tray
~ARC Spark Plug Cover
~Pulstar Plugs
~Mugen GP gunmetal Powdercoated Valve Cover
~Mugen Reservoir Covers
~Mugen Black Oil Cap
~Mugen Radiator Cap
~Hondata Flash Pro
~BC BR Coilovers
~SPC Camber Kit
~18" Mugen GP's
~Mugen Heptagon Lug Nuts
~215/40/18 Yokohama Parada Spec 2's
~HFP Brake Kit
~CT-Engineering Rear Sway Bar
~HFP Front Lip
~HFP Rear Lip
~HFP Sides
~GRFXP Taillight Tint
~50%/30% Window Tint
~Mini H1 5000K Retrofit
~OEM fogs w/ 6000K HID's
~08 Si Shift Boot
~Mugen Si Shift Knob
~Strutking Dead Pedal
~Honda Trunk Tray
Chris:
2008 Mugen Si
~CT-e Supercharger
~CT-e 560cc Injectors
~Walbro 255 lph Fuel Pump
~CT-e 3.15" Pulley
~Hondata Flashpro
~AEM Uego
~Skunk2 Megapower Race Header Heatwrapped
~Custom 3.5 Intake Heatwrapped
~J35 Throttle Body
~Boomba Motor Mounts
~Custom Battery Tray
~NGK Iridium 2 Step Colder Plugs
~Wrinkle Red Valve Cover
~Mugen Reservoir Covers
~Mugen Oil Cap
~Mugen Radiator Cap
~Mugen Quickshifter
~Corsport Cable Bushings
~Corsport Base Bushings
~Excelerate Gauge Pod
~Honda Trunk Tray
~CT-e Lowering Springs
~Mugen Visors
~Mugen Heptagon Lug Nuts
~Seibon Carbon Fiber OEM Style Hood
~30%/50% Window Tint
~6000K HID Kit
Alyssa adds this: We would like to thank Bill Turk @ Rick Case Honda for being there from the beginning and parts hookup whenever we need anything, Rick @ Import DPS for building such great products and involvement in the Honda community and last but not least the all the guys at King for doing everything they do!
Here are a few more pictures of their Civics!
Visit the King Motorsports online store for performance & aero parts for the 8th Gen Civic Si!
This awesome photo is Geoff Foster in his Dalt's Honda SCCA C Sedan Civic 1200 pictured here at Road Atlanta in 1979. Geoff raced Mini's in Canada for years before switching to a Civic in 1976. Geoff's best finish at the SCCA Runoffs was third in 1980. This car used many Mugen parts available at the time from Keihin CV carbs to a Mugen limited slip. This car was sold to Bill Shaw of CACI fame in after the Runoffs in 1980.
CACI was an early pioneer in the Honda performance market. Bill produced a line of high quality Civic 1200 parts in the mid-late 70's. Some of the highlight products were a twin Weber DCOE intake manifold, angle drive distributor, header and much more. Bill went on to race Civics in the IMSA Radial Sedan series at Riverside in early 1981 which is were this picture was taken. One of the cars was then sold and went on to great fame.......